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Post by satamax on Apr 23, 2014 5:00:38 GMT -8
Well, after seeing all this guys, what do you reckon? The plan, keeping it as original as possible. My thoughts, either redrill a hole at the bottom, and retrofit the lower left door to make the opening for a small batch box, I will have some room to insulate, as the bottom is all empty. Make a 18x18cm box, with a 4 inch riser, made out of half firebricks. I will be able to cut the metal side on the left of the firebox, and gain a smidge of room breaking the refractory bricks which are inside. Or fit a slanted J (or L) tube, cutting the floor of the actual ash box, (the lower left door) and live with it? This one can't realy be any bigger than 4 inches. Thanks. Max.
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Post by Daryl on Apr 23, 2014 6:20:04 GMT -8
Man, there are a ton of people looking to retrofit. If you can do this, then that would be pretty cool. Good luck.
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Post by peterberg on Apr 23, 2014 8:35:23 GMT -8
Max, Somebody in Belgium, Hautes Fagnes, retrofitted an old coal range. The articles are in Dutch, but the man, unlike me, also speaks French fluently. He rebuilt the innards of the range to house a small batch box. However, the pictures do speak for themselves. Maybe you could try to contact him?
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Post by satamax on Apr 23, 2014 21:42:15 GMT -8
Cool Peter. Thanks a lot.
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Post by 2tranceform on Apr 24, 2014 8:19:24 GMT -8
Very nice, Satamax! I can't wait to see the progress.
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Post by satamax on Apr 24, 2014 9:14:50 GMT -8
Today ended in working on my crane again!
I'm so tired of this! So the stove range thingy hasn't made it way into the workshop yet!
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Post by satamax on Apr 25, 2014 9:06:36 GMT -8
Rainy day, so i went off to work How lovely it is, to have a plasma cutter Peter, if you pop around. Three questions, do you think that square tube can make the firebox? I have used bigger before, but the door of the range fits it perfectly I just would have to redrill a hole lower into the metal front. Using it as a heat riser, i'm not sure. I would have to see what my supplier has, in smaller tubes. But if i do, my firebox would only be 25cm long or so. Bad do you think? Here's where i'm at
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Post by satamax on Apr 28, 2014 2:42:23 GMT -8
Well, went down to italy, just for this, 12cm id refractory tubing, which means i can have a 30cm long firebox, aproximately.
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Post by satamax on Apr 28, 2014 11:09:08 GMT -8
Do you think the door fits well? The oven has a few holes! Rather bad at the back. Since i needed to redo the wall between firebox and oven, which serves as smoke path labirynth to heat the oven, i extended it to cover the top of the oven. That will give it a bit more protection. Fixed the bottom lip directly in the bottom of the cooker/range (well i'm reluctant to use range, because to me it means a huge thing, this one is tiny. ) A layer of insulating firebricks (wedges, it's not too nice, but they will be leveled with the efiperl mix i've bought) And the tube laid on top, just to see!
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Post by satamax on Apr 28, 2014 11:22:59 GMT -8
So three questions
Do i weld the stainless steel to the oven? I i shouldn't bother?
Do i leave a gap big enough to accomodate a firebrick protection for the cast iron, it's not realy necessary?
Peter, if you pop around, could i make the P channel run from the grate shaker hole? Or it realy needs to be on top of the firebox?
Thanks a lot everybody!
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Post by satamax on Apr 29, 2014 5:30:56 GMT -8
Here we go again! Cutting the front! Backside of the door, do you thing i should make two more holes? trying to see if the door fits with a bungee! Well, after seeing that the newly cut piece fits almost perfectly in the old cutout. And that th old door holder fits perfectly or nearly on the batch box Thoses two were pure sheer luck! Meanwhile, in the green machine, roasts a marinated duck breast and taters! Does ney look too bad hey? Finished product! Duh! Nope, that's the finished product, and it was amazing, all in my belly by now I gonna buy bath ceramic repair kit, to cover my cuts in the front i think!
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Post by peterberg on Apr 29, 2014 5:46:57 GMT -8
Peter, if you pop around. Three questions, do you think that square tube can make the firebox? I have used bigger before, but the door of the range fits it perfectly I just would have to redrill a hole lower into the metal front. Using it as a heat riser, i'm not sure. I would have to see what my supplier has, in smaller tubes. But if i do, my firebox would only be 25cm long or so. Bad do you think? Let's see...As long as the firebox csa isn't any larger than 3.5 times the riser you would be OK. It could be smaller without repercussions. Length of firebox 25 cm / 10 inches is a bit cramped, don't you think?
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Post by peterberg on Apr 29, 2014 5:53:50 GMT -8
Do i leave a gap big enough to accomodate a firebrick protection for the cast iron, it's not realy necessary? Peter, if you pop around, could i make the P channel run from the grate shaker hole? Or it realy needs to be on top of the firebox? The cast iron will be eaten as well, only slower. The p-channel doesn't need to lie on top of the firebox, it happened to be convenient that's all. The important part is the vertical piece above the gate where the air has to go down.
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Post by Daryl on Apr 29, 2014 8:10:30 GMT -8
And that th old door holder fits perfectly or nearly on the batch box Thoses two were pure sheer luck! Meanwhile, in the green machine, roasts a marinated duck breast and taters! Finished product! Duh! Nope, that's the finished product, and it was amazing, all in my belly by now What luck! Yum! That looks so good.
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Post by satamax on Apr 29, 2014 10:49:55 GMT -8
Let's see...As long as the firebox csa isn't any larger than 3.5 times the riser you would be OK. It could be smaller without repercussions. Length of firebox 25 cm / 10 inches is a bit cramped, don't you think? Peter, i managed to find that 12cm inner diameter tube at my suplier. Actualy, it doesn't seem to come from landini this time, but from the belgians of SVK. So i can have a 30cm long firebox. The cast iron will be eaten as well, only slower. The p-channel doesn't need to lie on top of the firebox, it happened to be convenient that's all. The important part is the vertical piece above the gate where the air has to go down. I'm still a bit uncertain as what to do regarding the top gap. Because if i put a protecting firebrick on top of the riser, my riser will be even shorter. I have about 66cm between bottom of the metal box, and the top, where the cast iron plate lies. If i implement the P channel between the grate shaker hole and the firebox, that's quite a drop. About 20cm. Too long for a P channel no?
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