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Post by DCish on Aug 7, 2014 19:39:23 GMT -8
Yep, do heat with the wood stove. Heated with wood growing up and sorely missed it when I settled in a DC suburb. Kept dreaming of ways to do it until the 55 yr old maple in our yard came down and they wanted $500 just to haul it away. Rather than spend that money I decided to put it toward putting a chimney in the house. Around the same time I was introduced to the rocket stove concept and read this forum from front to back, hoping to put in a rocket, but code considerations led me to install a secondhand, but still modern, soapstone stove. After one winter with it it was clear that its not a final solution for me... I'm still dedicated to getting a rocket in the house. One plus is that now I have a good baseline for comparing performance. I'm planning a backyard bench / grill build this fall to test some ideas that I hope to incorporate. I'm definitely taking the slow road, but the more I read the more comfortable I get with the idea of bringing it inside. A huge debt I owe to all those sharing their experiences here. Best of luck to you in your experimentations, I'll be watching and learning!
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Post by ericvw on Aug 9, 2014 13:40:04 GMT -8
A video here of the outside testing of the batch box. Had to wait 'til night to catch these flames- the usual jet flame is there, but I'm not sure what the flame up above it is? Is that an off gassing beyond the normal wood gas? This occurred after a few loads stuffed one after the next, about every time the jet started to recede. Subsequently, the thing had a continuous jet flame for about 35 minutes, before the load that created this extra flame was added.Let me know who else has produced this in there experiments. A side note- Recently, the jet flame was blue! BUT, I couldn't capture it on the cellphone video cam, not bright enough for the "smartphone," trying not to burn up the firewood pile to recreate it! Come to think of it, that blue flame was produced in the leaky firebrick 'mark 1'! Please let me know y'alls thoughts, Eric
Retried in next post...
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Post by ericvw on Aug 9, 2014 13:55:18 GMT -8
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Post by Daryl on Aug 10, 2014 2:41:37 GMT -8
The link works.
& blue flame is a good thing. Congrats.
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Post by ericvw on Aug 21, 2014 17:34:39 GMT -8
Here's 2 pics of our basement. Ceiling height is exactly 7 feet. Half of the basement is below grade, the remainder is minimum 3 feet below grade. The stairs in the pic go up to the kitchen. Basement is utility, workshop, and dartboard, we have 900 sq. ft. single story above. From the thimble to crown of chimney is 22 feet, clay flue liner, 6" square. Sweep clean out is is on opposite side. www.dropbox.com/sc/ukqc1s51wyu6ae3/AABeQiMGlUOo8h1zm86141r_a" www.dropbox.com/sc/yq7sz1lvco28i14/AAC46H7RQ62AFVV6LtlKjQNKa" Please share thoughts and opinions. As posted earlier, my intention is to (as close as possible) build a unit similar to Morticcio's brick belled batch box. Love the simplicity of the design, and pleasing to my wife!!! Thanks again for y'alls insight and support, Eric VW PS- The pics were taken tonight, 8-21-14, not April of 2008! Darned digital cameras...
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Post by ericvw on Aug 26, 2014 2:46:50 GMT -8
Thank you Peter, Can you tell me tho what was needing adjusted on the links above, so I can make correct next time? Also, do you have an opinion about the 7' ceiling height? I appreciate your help very much! Eric VW
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Post by ericvw on Sept 7, 2014 12:59:15 GMT -8
Quick question for anyone that's ever tried or thought about it- what about oven door glass, say from a self cleaning electric oven? Would it stand up to temps in the firebox of the Batch? What about as a viewing window in a bell? Just curios, the notion hit me this morning while fixin some Amish friendship bread w/ my wife... Thank you for any comments, Eric VW
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Post by DCish on Sept 7, 2014 15:55:03 GMT -8
Oven door glass is generally tempered glass. Wood stoves generate significantly higher temps and require high temp ceramic glass. Rocket stove temps in places that have flame (presumably the areas you'd want to view) are higher than usually found on standard wood stoves. Thankfully ceramic glass is up to the task as Matthew Walker and others can attest, but I'd be leery of stepping down from ceramic glass. That said, Vortex (and I think at least one other person) have used Pyrex cookware with some success. I believe I recall Vortex opining that he attributes the longevity of his door glass to the surrounding seal (or substantial lack thereof) being leaky and providing ample cooling for the glass.
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Post by AlexHarpin on Sept 7, 2014 16:05:58 GMT -8
Hi Eric VW!
I saw on wikipedia that a self cleaning oven cycle temp is around 900F.
A wood stove glass can handle temp up to 1400F wich I think it is more appropriate for our need.
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Post by ericvw on Sept 7, 2014 16:22:51 GMT -8
Thanks y'all for the chime in, Yeah, I wasn't sure, but figured I'd ask. Funny, I have a loaner wood stove in the basement w/ ceramic glass, but it's not only too wide of an opening, it's not mine! Now the stove I used last year has a cast iron door, sized nearly to the feed on the batch, may do the trick, just no window.... Morticcio said u can judge by the sound, and as my backyard experimental batch goes, I believe that! Thanks again, fellas, EVW
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Post by ericvw on Sept 26, 2014 14:37:24 GMT -8
Hey y'all, Anyone remember seeing a post about Morticcio's dimensions for his bell? I've scoured his posts in a search and can't seem to locate 'em... Any help would be greatly appreciated! Picked up some Tough Shot 2600 for my bell cap slabs- (4) 55 lb bags, one for each slab, supported with (3) ceramic wrapped Tee shaped stainless steel pieces. Gotta get some firebrick from local supply for bell, but should be building SOON, as this is the one for the house. Thanks again for any help, EVW
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Post by Daryl on Sept 27, 2014 3:44:05 GMT -8
Morticco used Peter's. That is all I could find in a quick search. Have fun, man!
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Post by morticcio on Sept 27, 2014 13:47:42 GMT -8
Bell dimensions are as follows:
Height: 1.8m (approx. 71") Width: 0.6m (approx. 24") Depth: 1.0m (approx. 40")
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Post by ericvw on Sept 27, 2014 16:11:27 GMT -8
Thank you Morticcio, Were those internal or external dimensions? Sorry for the redundant questions, forgot to save the post locations before! I appreciate your effort to respond, Eric
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Post by morticcio on Sept 28, 2014 0:07:41 GMT -8
External dimensions. The bricks are on edge. Brick dimensions are 230mm x 114mm x 76mm.
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