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Post by tferr on Nov 7, 2021 14:44:15 GMT -8
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Post by tferr on Nov 7, 2021 17:34:00 GMT -8
I would like some thoughts on whether the smokehouse inthe middle of the exhaust train is going to be a major problem. It is sealed airtight and i seem to have good draw from the 7" black pipe that comes into the tunnel. live.staticflickr.com/65535/51662456191_04b7e91462_z.jpgDoes anyone have magnehelics installed and where abouts Tom |
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Post by tferr on Nov 8, 2021 10:07:57 GMT -8
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Post by tferr on Nov 11, 2021 16:08:56 GMT -8
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Post by foxtatic on Nov 12, 2021 9:05:56 GMT -8
I would like some thoughts on whether the smokehouse inthe middle of the exhaust train is going to be a major problem. A smokehouse in the middle of the exhaust train. Interesting. So you'd be cooking hanging meats in that box with the heat that passes through on the way to the chimney? Since smoking is done at low temps, I can see the reasoning there (since the exhaust temp would be low if your build is right.) But the other component of smoking is the flavor from the wood, which I don't think you'd get in this case. The exhaust comes out so clean, even burning aromatic wood would not likely give you much good smoke flavor since the wood is burned so completely. But hey, try it and let us know! |
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Post by fiedia on Nov 13, 2021 2:54:10 GMT -8
The guys I know who smoke cheese or meat will avoid any flame. They just bring slowly saw dust into ember, ideally beech.
There is another technique in Jura. They have a room on top of the chimney where they hang meat. It is called thuyé. Smokes from chimneys and stoves will go through this room continually during the long winters.
I am sure your idea would work, the question is if you will get enough smokes and for how long. It is a little contradictory since the goal of a batchrocket is to get as little smoke as possible.
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Post by Dan (Upstate NY, USA) on Nov 13, 2021 3:59:38 GMT -8
A good burning masonry heater doesn't produce much smoke, only a little on startup.
It does produce a lot of CO2 and steam.
Seams more like an idea for steaming food rather than smoking it...
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Post by tferr on Nov 13, 2021 5:46:42 GMT -8
Thanks for the imput folks. My original idea was to have a normal firebox smoker. I built the smoker first and I came across the Vortex thread afterwards. This made me totally change my plan.
I dont intend to utilize the vortex stove as a source for either smoke or heat for smoking. I have natural gas setup inside the smoke chamber as well as a charcoal well in the bottom
The stove is now just going to be a two burner cooktop. It will mainly be for conversation when friends are over. Lets face it Its just darn cool.
It is also a place that I can sit and read when I go out each night to medicate. I figure if I do a burn around 4pm it should make a nice warm seat around 7
I sourced out some 2'x3' cfb panels and some Mizou dence castable yesterday from one of my old contractor contacts. He would do all the refractory work on the gypsum kettles I was responsible for. I should have that stuff next week.
I am intending on a 7" system is it a guessing game on how much mass to incorporate. I want to ensure I dont take all the heat out prior to it getting to the bench portion.
Thanks again Tom
By the way coming to you from southern Ontario Canada ...home of the captive and lacking the brave
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Post by tferr on Nov 15, 2021 15:02:09 GMT -8
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Post by tferr on Dec 6, 2021 17:15:45 GMT -8
Few pics of where I am at. I have the firebox poured. I am out on the heightof my firebox by an inch and a half. I should have added the inch and a half to my sidewalls. Live and learn. I am going ahead with it as is. I was able to get the frame started I am leaving the uprights long until and I get my cooktop height figured out exactly. I am mocking it all up in my shop it is starting to get too cold out for this ol guy. flic.kr/p/2mPbRzwflic.kr/p/2mPbRgaflic.kr/p/2mPgotw |
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Post by tferr on Dec 6, 2021 17:26:01 GMT -8
Doing lots of reading and re reading of Trev's thread not sure if I know how to figure out how the shortened height is going to affect anything/everything.
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Post by Vortex on Dec 7, 2021 2:58:46 GMT -8
Your afterburner is too wide for the height. You can get away with varying the size of the firebox to a degree but the afterburner width, height and port proportions are really important.
7" Afterburner dimensions would be: 10-1/2" wide x 5-1/4" high (width is twice Height). Port should be: 2-1/3" wide x 8" long.
Also the afterburner must be insulated, the more the better, it will not work with dense refractory bricks for the sides.
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Post by tferr on Dec 7, 2021 4:19:07 GMT -8
Thanks trev, I am hoping to get to a pottery supply place on Friday. They have the ifb and vermiculite board. Wow that stuff aintcheap
Bricks are 9 to 11 bucks and the vermiculite boardis 11 dollars a sq ft.
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Post by Dan (Upstate NY, USA) on Dec 7, 2021 18:14:21 GMT -8
Think you meant the opposite.
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Post by tferr on Dec 7, 2021 18:21:07 GMT -8
Here are the dimesions I am trying to hit
Firebox is 13.250" x 14.75" x 18"
Afterburner 5.250" x 10.5" x 21"
Top Chamber 5.75" x12.875" x 21.5"
Exit Port 6.75" x5.75"
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