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Post by skywalker on Dec 13, 2020 13:57:27 GMT -8
Hi there from the Netherlands.
We are planning to build a cookstove in our community space. It will be used daily for cooking for 15 - 20 persons. We already found a cooking plate of 985x650 mm and really like to us that in the design. An oven is not really necessary.
I build several BBR's and dsr2 as well, but this cooking stove thing is new for me. What are your tips and advice? I just found out about the vortex stove, but looks quite complicated to build. I am a real fan of the dsr2 and it's simplicity to build. Any experience on that as a cookstove?
Any plans maybe?
Thanks.
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Post by Vortex on Dec 13, 2020 15:13:40 GMT -8
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Post by skywalker on Dec 13, 2020 23:35:42 GMT -8
Thanks for pointing in that direction Vortex. I've read through that thread already. A shame its not working properly. Is there any sketchup model about the Vortex stove? I really love it, but I find it hard to get all the dimensions right. |
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Post by martyn on Dec 14, 2020 1:07:55 GMT -8
My my own cook plate is a 6’’ J tube highbred is a dedicated cooking hot plate, i regularly cook for 30 + people . The centre of the plate can reach over 600c glowing red hot but it is easy enough to regulate the temperature with a top loading fire. I use a bigger fire box 8 x 8’’ and a simple vortex design so it may not be as clean burning as a standard 6’’ J however there is no smoke and it suits my needs perfectly. I still cant get my photos on this site but i do have a couple videos from a few years back. The first version i built was even more basic and would reach 500c on the top plate, it was just a well made 6’ J tube with lots of insulation and a simple direct chimney . So if you just want a really basic hot plate with just radiant heating and no additional mass and a direct chimney exit , then a well built j tube will serve you perfectly. My new version has a by pass fitted so i can cook in the summer without over heating the room. Here is a link to my first version youtu.be/B61IVxsYB30 |
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Post by Vortex on Dec 14, 2020 2:10:47 GMT -8
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Post by fuegos on Dec 14, 2020 2:21:44 GMT -8
Hello skywalker , for a cookstove you might want to consider a riserless core walkerstoves.com/index.htmli built a verson of the BBQ oven as my first build . |
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Post by skywalker on Dec 14, 2020 12:54:35 GMT -8
My my own cook plate is a 6’’ J tube highbred is a dedicated cooking hot plate, i regularly cook for 30 + people . The centre of the plate can reach over 600c glowing red hot but it is easy enough to regulate the temperature with a top loading fire. I use a bigger fire box 8 x 8’’ and a simple vortex design so it may not be as clean burning as a standard 6’’ J however there is no smoke and it suits my needs perfectly. I still cant get my photos on this site but i do have a couple videos from a few years back. The first version i built was even more basic and would reach 500c on the top plate, it was just a well made 6’ J tube with lots of insulation and a simple direct chimney . So if you just want a really basic hot plate with just radiant heating and no additional mass and a direct chimney exit , then a well built j tube will serve you perfectly. My new version has a by pass fitted so i can cook in the summer without over heating the room. Here is a link to my first version youtu.be/B61IVxsYB30--- Thanks for the info Martyn. I can imagine a J tube is easier in tuning the heat during cooking. But I am also very charmed by the double vortex look in a vortex or DSR1 one. 600c is really nice and hot by the way! |
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Post by skywalker on Dec 14, 2020 13:04:28 GMT -8
Hello skywalker , for a cookstove you might want to consider a riserless core walkerstoves.com/index.htmli built a verson of the BBQ oven as my first build . Thanks for the tip. But it's lacking a nice view on double vortex. Do you have experience with a riserless cookstove? |
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Post by skywalker on Dec 14, 2020 13:35:10 GMT -8
Thanks for the plan Vortex. That comes in very handy and doesnt look that complicated at all! I made a new sketchup file adding your comments about the exit port and stumbler. It can be found here: gofile.io/d/gB9n4NEDIT: This link leads to the file in Sketchup 18 gofile.io/d/FeduGK |
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Post by Vortex on Dec 15, 2020 5:15:56 GMT -8
Hey thanks for doing that Skywalker. I had to download the latest sketchup viewer to open it as it's only compatible with version 21. Usually people save them so they are at least compatible with 18 IIRC. I'll add it to front page of my thread.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 15, 2020 12:04:01 GMT -8
Hey thanks for doing that Skywalker. I had to download the latest sketchup viewer to open it as it's only compatible with version 21. Usually people save them so they are at least compatible with 18 IIRC. I'll add it to front page of my thread. Ah good to know. Are you able to save it 'back' to 18 IIRC then? Or should I upload a new file in verison 18? |
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Post by fuegos on Dec 15, 2020 12:53:20 GMT -8
Hello skywalker , for a cookstove you might want to consider a riserless core walkerstoves.com/index.htmli built a verson of the BBQ oven as my first build . Thanks for the tip. But it's lacking a nice view on double vortex. Do you have experience with a riserless cookstove? not with a cookstove but the basic core is very straightforward to build with standard brick sizes very few cuts .you can also put a window on the reverse side if you build the stove as an "Island" I'm not sure if you could work a window into the firebox side , you would have to ask Matt about that. |
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Post by Vortex on Dec 15, 2020 13:11:38 GMT -8
Hey thanks for doing that Skywalker. I had to download the latest sketchup viewer to open it as it's only compatible with version 21. Usually people save them so they are at least compatible with 18 IIRC. I'll add it to front page of my thread. Ah good to know. Are you able to save it 'back' to 18 IIRC then? Or should I upload a new file in verison 18? I have Sketchup 19 but it wont open your file, says I need version 21 to open. I downloaded the free sketchup 21 viewer to look at it but it doesn't allow you to edit or save anything, so if you could save an 18 version that would be great, thanks. |
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Post by josephcrawley on Dec 15, 2020 13:12:35 GMT -8
Thanks for the tip. But it's lacking a nice view on double vortex. Do you have experience with a riserless cookstove? not with a cookstove but the basic core is very straightforward to build with standard brick sizes very few cuts .you can also put a window on the reverse side if you build the stove as an "Island" I'm not sure if you could work a window into the firebox side , you would have to ask Matt about that. Just a note of caution Matt's cook stoves designed around his core do not heat the oven to a traditional baking temperature. It will obtain a slow cook temp. He defines it as a roasting oven. |
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Post by matthewwalker on Dec 15, 2020 17:59:44 GMT -8
not with a cookstove but the basic core is very straightforward to build with standard brick sizes very few cuts .you can also put a window on the reverse side if you build the stove as an "Island" I'm not sure if you could work a window into the firebox side , you would have to ask Matt about that. Just a note of caution Matt's cookstove core does not heat the oven to a traditional baking temperature. It will obtain a slow cook temp. He defines it as a roasting oven. Joseph, the oven temperature is a function of stove design, not core. The riserless core is comparable to other 6" batch type cores in terms of output power and temperature. |
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