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Post by szczepanek on Apr 8, 2020 9:33:33 GMT -8
Hi again everybody,
Look at what I'm going to do, starting in less than a week from now.
A friend of mine saw this old tile stove at a neighbour's. It was just about to be demolished, so he decided he wanted it at his house.
Now I'm asked to tear it down, save the tiles, and rebuild it.
I designed a 13 cm batch box to fit inside this structure. It was the maximum I could think of here, as the tile walls should normally be about 8.4 cm thick, and the whole thing is quite narrow.
I'm going to make custom, narrower bricks for this (5.5 cm thick, orangey colour on the drawing), which is going to be a bit of work, but there is some big old fireclay slabs available, so I'm planning to cut them and get the bricks that way.
The riser stands a bit off axis, so that I can make the exhaust on the left.
I'm playing with the idea of omitting the P channel, as I don't weld and I don't have much time left to get someone to do it. So I'd either make a bigger primary air slot, or somehow get the P channel later. Anyway, it's not on the pics.
ISA is 2.89 m2. Not the max the system size can afford, but the chimney is an old brick one, so I guess higher exhaust temp might be OK.
Comments appreciated!
All best to you, and if you've seen any of this coronavirus, go shove him into your fireboxes. J.
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Post by Orange on Apr 10, 2020 4:03:32 GMT -8
nice project!
maybe you could build a metal frame that would hold firebrick splits and build a 150mm system.
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Post by Jura on Apr 10, 2020 6:01:18 GMT -8
I f you do not have a chance to make metal floor channel (Żuraw, Kobra) why not to apply the solution of p-channel made of ceramics placed on the top of the firebox ? (btw. I sent you a PW quite some time ago)
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Post by josephcrawley on Apr 11, 2020 6:14:03 GMT -8
Without the secondary air perhaps it would be better to rebuild with the original Firebox design? After all you have all the parts.
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Post by szczepanek on Apr 13, 2020 3:36:00 GMT -8
nice project! maybe you could build a metal frame that would hold firebrick splits and build a 150mm system. Thanks! That's not a bad idea at all!
But wouldn't it be too little ISA in this case? It's much lower than the max even in a 13 cm system.
The heater is not to be used as the main source of heat in the house, so I'm not very worried about its power really.
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Post by szczepanek on Apr 13, 2020 3:40:42 GMT -8
I f you do not have a chance to make metal floor channel (Żuraw, Kobra) why not to apply the solution of p-channel made of ceramics placed on the top of the firebox ? (btw. I sent you a PW quite some time ago) You mean the predecessor of the P-channel, the one that lied on the firebox's ceiling? I'll consider that! As well as assembling a normal P-channel with screws, or maybe find a welder in the village. You guys have talked me out of the idea of leaving out the thing
Not sure what PW stands for. Do you mean your post from 3 Feb about Yasin's pages? Thank you for telling me about it, I had missed it! My French begs for pardon though
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Post by szczepanek on Apr 13, 2020 3:43:31 GMT -8
Without the secondary air perhaps it would be better to rebuild with the original Firebox design? After all you have all the parts. Thanks for your comment! I did consider this but I decided against for two reasons: 1) I don't trust the way old stoves were built it terms of clean burning.
2) I have dismantled some stoves and found it rather difficult to save the bricks let alone remember their configuration. Or was it my laziness?
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Post by Jura on Apr 14, 2020 4:28:23 GMT -8
You mean the predecessor of the P-channel, the one that lied on the firebox's ceiling? Well .. yes.. but AFAIK to be precise that was the solution named "p-channel" and and its successor was given a name of "floor channel". You guys have talked me out of the idea of leaving out the thing. Not sure what PW stands for. It seems I only wanted to send you a PM (private message, but finally did not) Do you mean your post from 3 Feb about Yasin's pages? Thank you for telling me about it, I had missed it! I can not recall it at the moment. I think you were about to construct some cooktop range and probably therefore I proposed you to peep on Yasin's development. 1) I don't trust the way old stoves were built it terms of clean burning. 2) I have dismantled some stoves and found it rather difficult to save the bricks let alone remember their configuration. Or was it my laziness? @ 1 - You are absolutely right about it. They were designed to burn absolutely different fuel. i.e. coal. And without much regards to clean combustion. (nota bene: air provision through the grate in the bottom of the firebox drived the CO emissions through the sky when we tried to burn wood (even in a preheated stove)) @ 2 - I have also dissembled a few of those stoves. Most of the bricks from the firebox and the channels around are burnt out. As to the rest of them I'd be afraid to reuse in a new stove.
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