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Post by julianbu on May 16, 2019 11:47:35 GMT -8
HI there, Have anyone here tried injecting steam directly into the fire? I did and it looks good. I'm posting it here for comments and maybe we can collaborate further to develop this. Its sort of steam cracking. Slicing the fuel into smaller bits so that it burns quicker and thoroughly. I have use this burner in conjunction with the rotary drum dryer i constructed. As you can observe the fire is energetic and the color is yellow to colorless. At around 1:10 mark I close the water supply and the fire change color, lose size and become less energetic. And yes when we use the dryer the temp. gauge always show higher temp than without steam. Also the dried matter has no trace of smoke smell. I take this as that the wood is burning completely, since the dryer is of the direct drying type. Meaning the flue gases comes in contact with the dried matter. I'm kinda short of time to tinker right now if anyone willing to pick up from here. i will explain further how its done.
Julian
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Post by julianbu on May 16, 2019 11:48:55 GMT -8
By the way this is the first prototype and the burner is running at half load. So there maybe a good chance to improve.
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Post by julianbu on May 16, 2019 11:50:09 GMT -8
here is the burner
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Post by julianbu on May 16, 2019 11:52:10 GMT -8
oopps where is the attachment am I doing it wrong.
Oh its too big I guess have to resize
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Post by julianbu on May 16, 2019 11:58:11 GMT -8
"this forum has exceeded attachment space limit..."
I guess cant post the image
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Post by wiscojames on May 16, 2019 12:32:24 GMT -8
You need to link to a third party host. I use google.
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Post by wiscojames on May 16, 2019 12:34:31 GMT -8
Should this be moved to "experiments"?
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Post by peterberg on May 16, 2019 12:47:04 GMT -8
Yes, I think so. Done.
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Post by julianbu on May 18, 2019 7:57:59 GMT -8
I read somewhere that this forum is the home of cutting edge developer of rocket burners. So what do you guys think?
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Post by wiscojames on May 18, 2019 14:19:04 GMT -8
Most of us have ongoing projects and ideas for projects. I, for one, am busy rebuilding my pizza oven. Asking sone one else to "pick it up from here" is a big ask.
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Post by gadget on May 24, 2019 19:49:22 GMT -8
I read somewhere that this forum is the home of cutting edge developer of rocket burners. So what do you guys think? That is interesting. I would suspect that the energy needed to produce the steam is greater then any gains. If I had to guess, there is 2 possibilities for what is going on here, either the steam is drawing in extra air or perhaps the water is splitting into oxygen and hydrogen. Of course if your goal is just a fierce burning fire, all you need to do is just add a blower. It will get the fire going plenty hot enough to do some damage to your stove. Plus you don't have to mess around with the complications of steam. I would love to here if anyone knows what the mechanism is with the steam.
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Post by Vortex on May 25, 2019 1:18:55 GMT -8
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Post by julianbu on May 30, 2019 16:00:00 GMT -8
I read somewhere that this forum is the home of cutting edge developer of rocket burners. So what do you guys think? That is interesting. I would suspect that the energy needed to produce the steam is greater then any gains.absolutely not. I have done the testing without blower with blower with steam. with steam is the hands down winner in producing more heat
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Post by julianbu on May 30, 2019 16:03:10 GMT -8
Most of us have ongoing projects and ideas for projects. I, for one, am busy rebuilding my pizza oven. Asking sone one else to "pick it up from here" is a big ask. Well you can always say no. Nobody is forcing you to do what you dont want. I am a designer myself, an inventor in various fields. I just like to work with like minded people. Its more fun. But of course I wouldn't want to work with the water boys. I need to learn something new also. "if anyone willing to pick up from here"
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Post by julianbu on May 30, 2019 16:07:40 GMT -8
Yes, this or something similar is what I am trying to achieve. Let us look at it this way. If we got big fuel particles running at break neck speed towards the exhaust and away from the hot zone, chances is that there will be left over of the fuels. By cracking the fuel particles into smaller bits, most if not all of it, burns in the hot zone.
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