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Post by briank on Jan 21, 2018 11:50:29 GMT -8
Today I started modifying a Vogelzang Frontiersman wood stove I found on Craigslist for $45. I simply used a Harbor Freight 7” angle grinder ($45 with coupon) and Metabo cutting disks to modify it. First I removed all the firebricks lining the wood stove and cut out the top, then the angle iron on the insides of the left, right and rear wood stove walls that previously held the firebricks in place. I’m left with an empty 21” wide x 17.5” deep by 15” tall rectangular steel box that I can use to hold my 6” or 8” rocket core. This took less than an hour of light work yesterday afternoon. In this build, I’m going to use a 6” BBR core oriented from left to right, with the firebox door being part of the right hand wall of the firebox. Port will be in the ceiling of the firebox on the far right, with a double shoebox riser directly above the firebox. A 24”x24”x14” deep square metal box will sit directly over the wood stove with double shoe box firebox and riser, and that will sit between 2 masonry benches on my family room fireplace hearth. But I just wanted to show how easy and cheap it can be to use old plate steel wood stoves like the Frontiersman to solve the issue of how to “build and mount” a firebox door with glass window. I’m using one of my 6” shippable cores (with minor modifications) to build this firebox and double shoebox riser configuration, and I’ll add pictures as that takes shape. The primary air holes already in the firebox door will be modified for primary air. The holes under the door in the wood stove frame will be modified and used to introduce the secondary air through the recess in the 1” ceramic fiber board under the firebrick split floor of the firebox. (The two current air holes currently seen in the rear wall of the wood stove will be sealed off by the left side wall of the firebox.)
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Post by drooster on Jan 21, 2018 13:54:29 GMT -8
Subscribed. What's next?
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Post by briank on Jan 21, 2018 18:25:51 GMT -8
Finish the firebox, the double shoe box riser (DSR), build the benches using reclaimed old 18”x9”x4.5” firebrick and 2’x2’ cement sidewalk pavers, figure out how to integrate this Conservo Toledo Cooker as a white oven, cap the rocket primary bell with a 14g square 24”x24”x 14” sheet metal box maintaining enough breathing space between the DSR and the cap, and apply a blast gate as a bypass damper on the bottom rear of the 24”x24” metal box cap...
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Post by josephcrawley on Jan 21, 2018 18:41:39 GMT -8
It seems rather important to be able to shut off primary and secondary air after the burn. People I've built stoves for including myself notice a huge difference between leaving the dampers open over night and closing them.
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Post by briank on Jan 21, 2018 18:47:58 GMT -8
It seems rather important to be able to shut off primary and secondary air after the burn. People I've built stoves for including myself notice a huge difference between leaving the dampers open over night and closing them. Ok, thanks Joseph. I can retrofit Damper controls on these fairly easily. It’s something I might need to help Alex with next time I’m there too. If nothing else, I have magnetic strips/sheets I could place over them.
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Post by josephcrawley on Jan 21, 2018 19:21:50 GMT -8
I stuff aluminum foil in mine. Wish I had made a slide damper to start with
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Post by briank on Jan 23, 2018 19:56:04 GMT -8
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Post by Dan (Upstate NY, USA) on Jan 24, 2018 1:56:17 GMT -8
Cool
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Post by pinhead on Jan 24, 2018 7:40:41 GMT -8
That's super cool. How will you implement the heat exchanger? I'd personally make up a huge sheet steel bell right on top of the thing to make it look like a "conventional" stove.
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Post by briank on Jan 24, 2018 9:08:21 GMT -8
That's super cool. How will you implement the heat exchanger? I'd personally make up a huge sheet steel bell right on top of the thing to make it look like a "conventional" stove. That’s exactly what I’m doing. I have a 14 gauge sheet metal square box that’s 24”x24”x14” tall that’s going to sit above this. It has a 6” round flue collar on the bottom rear of the box that I’m going to use as a bypass with a blast gate. Since the wood stove is only 17” deep, there will be a 7”x24” space at the rear for the exhaust to pass into two blind masonry benches. One of those benches will contain this Conservo Toledo Cooker. It is being built on a 96” long 10” tall hearth so there’s easy access to the chimney
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Post by briank on Jan 24, 2018 17:56:45 GMT -8
The “shippable core” from this build, all boxed up and ready to “ship” - from my garage to my basement, where I’ll reassemble everything. (At least the basement has heat!)
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Post by briank on Feb 10, 2018 19:26:16 GMT -8
Test fit, temporary while I make measurements for the masonry benches. Hearth is 96” wide, and now 27” deep since I extended it. The wood stove is 24” wide, 17” tall. The square metal box on top of it is 24”x24”x14” tall. Benches will be blind ended and 24”x24”, with 2’ bench to the right of the rocket and 4’ to the left. The metal box on top will have a 4”x6” mica glass viewport into the DSR above the firebox with a view of the port area.
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Post by briank on Feb 22, 2018 12:21:46 GMT -8
My apologies, folks. I just took down the eBay ads for my shippable cores because my hands are going to be full for the coming months. (I’m the primary care taker for my 82 yo mom, and she just had massive emergency cardiac surgery, so I expect to be preoccupied for the foreseeable future.)
If you’re still interested in obtaining one of the 6” BBR shippable cores and not in a hurry, get in touch with me here via private message and I’ll still make them available that way. I just can’t fulfill any eBay orders in a timely manner for the foreseeable future.
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Post by Vortex on Feb 23, 2018 1:34:26 GMT -8
Sorry to hear that Brian. Hope your Mom has a quick and complete recovery.
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Post by esbjornaneer on Mar 3, 2018 5:30:49 GMT -8
Hello Brian, First best wishes for ease of journey to health for you both. I understand if it will be a while before any reply. It looks to me, from the pic of the upper box floor, as if you implemented the version I asked Peter about in this post but his relpy was negative on the idea. I'd love to hear how you are finding its burn when you get there.
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