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Post by brainstatetheta on May 17, 2016 3:03:55 GMT -8
Hey guys new member here. My name is Nick and I live in California. I am an avid hobbyist. I've made a really cool rocket stove and decided to make a YouTube for all my future projects, and my first one i'm showing is for this stove! I used a gate scroll for a handle. I think it looks awesome. The stove is made from 4" x 1/8" square tubing and instead of doing a 45 degree cut, I split the angle at 22.5 degrees and made a multi-segment turn for a cool looking bend at the base and a downward feed angle. You can find me at YouTube channel brainstate_THETA Link to my stove video www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPRUKxqB2cQTell me what you guys think! Thanks! |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 4:00:07 GMT -8
Metal is doomed.
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Post by brainstatetheta on May 17, 2016 4:05:15 GMT -8
Doomed? Sorry just trying. Thanks for the honesty though! Its just my style. Im into meditation as well and it shows haha
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Post by pinhead on May 19, 2016 10:54:43 GMT -8
Nice video you've put together there. It looks like you're skilled in the art of iron.
But, Doomed, yes. Not trying to be pessimistic or anything, just stating a fact.
By definition, a proper rocket stove requires an insulated core and heat riser. If you insulate the metal in your stove, the steel will be destroyed in a dozen or so burns. Literally.
It's a nice looking device, and probably burns fairly well, but it's not a rocket stove.
(The phrase "metal is doomed" is somewhat of an inside joke on the forum, since there have been so many steel stoves built which have been touted as the "ultimate" design, only to be destroyed after a handful of burns.)
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Post by brainstatetheta on May 19, 2016 13:01:04 GMT -8
Well I feel a bit better about posting that now thanks. I knew they were supposed to be insulated and everything I just tried my take on something Portable and light weight. I mean your not gonna back pack with this but its definitely easy to throw in the truck and to your camp site or whatever your doing.
Yeah and my first one. I'm not an expert on these stoves I just imagined the easy bend kind of help the breathing of the stove since the draft is not being pulled as well as it should with the insulation.
It does work but if your putting larger pieces of wood it kinda chokes and becomes fussy.
Ill make a proper one for you guys. The steel yard by my house has a ton of drops 45 cents a pound all kinds of tubing.
Thanks for the feed back!
Nick V.
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Post by mkrepel on May 25, 2016 7:43:28 GMT -8
As someone who enjoys building stuff and sees a lot of metalwork done at my job (industrial construction) I can appreciate your craftsmanship and the art you put into it. I also enjoyed watching the steps of the build. The stove itself does qualify as a rocket stove, albeit an uninsulated model. I bet it burns fairly well. I think you put a lot of extra effort into that multi-segment bend as I have seen several stoves along this line that use a simple mitre and they work just fine. However, I suspect that you enjoy the work and you did turn out a nice product. I think the handle is very nice. the location is unorthodox, but it allows you to pick up the stove by the handle without spilling ashes all over the place. It will get very hot, but I guess it isn't meant to be used while the stove is still hot.
No doubt the stove will eat itself pretty quickly due to high temps and oxygen rich just above the flames. Most folks on this forum also like to get their stoves cooking the heat riser to about 2000-deg-F (sometimes much higher). This will not be possible without insulation and would eat the steel even faster. that is the genesis of "metal is doomed".
All-in-all, this is a pretty good effort and will provide a fairly efficient device for cooking in an outdoor survival mode. The thickness of the steel will probably allow it to hold up for many firings unless you insulate it. If you don't insulate it, it will not be quite as efficient at cooking, but will work fairly well as a radiant heater and work okay for cooking to boot.
It seems like you get the steel for a very reasonable price and you seem to be good at metalworking, so you could afford to rebuild as needed. It will last a lot longer than the tin can models that were so popular around the internet for awhile. I think those only last a couple of good burns.
I like it. It was a good project and gets you on the road to building these devices.
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Post by bidouille on Jun 1, 2016 10:24:22 GMT -8
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Post by satamax on Jun 1, 2016 10:47:17 GMT -8
Tas de feraille, c'est tout, pas un rocket!  |
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