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Post by pluton5 on Feb 15, 2012 11:00:14 GMT -8
witam wszystkich,,,
Mam pytanie do expertów,donkey, peterberg i inni,, ------ czy taki uk³ad pieca zadzia³a? to ma byæ ogrzewanie do stolarni 200m kw powierzchni, znajomy prosi³ mnie o pomoc,ale niestety ni eumiem jednoznacznie odpowiedzieæ,,
hello all,,,
I have a question for expert consultants, donkey, peterberg and others, ------ Whether the kiln system work? This is to be heating up to 200 kw carpentry area, a friend asked me for help, but unfortunately eumiem than simple answer,,
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Post by Donkey on Feb 17, 2012 10:36:05 GMT -8
Pluton5, I think that this deserves it's own thread, so I have moved it here.
Interesting design. I see only one flaw at A, the air intake. Air should pass down over the wood from above, not from below as shown. Bringing air into the system from below will cause smoke to fill the feed chamber above, causing a sticky creosote mess in that place, also when the door is opened smoke will stream out the top. I recommend something similar to the image below.
Myślę, że zasługuje na swój własny wątek, więc przenieśli go tutaj.
Ciekawe wzornictwo. Widzę tylko jedną wadę w A, wlotu powietrza. Powietrze powinno przechodzić w dół na drewno od góry, nie z dołu, jak pokazano. Wprowadzanie powietrza do systemu z poniżej spowoduje dym do wypełnienia komory podajnika powyżej, powodując lepki bałagan kreozotowy w tym miejscu, także wtedy, gdy drzwi są otwarte dym przesyłać na szczyt. Polecam coś podobnego do obrazku poniżej.
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Post by pluton5 on Feb 17, 2012 13:43:03 GMT -8
Donkey dziêkujê za odpowiedŸ,,,
mam pytanie: -- czy mo¿na poprowadziæ kana³ pod pod³og¹ i dodatkowo mocno go och³odziæ dmuchaw¹- jak na rysunku odcinek ,,D,, -- czy nie zak³óci to pracy pieca i zapewni odpowiedni ci¹g kominowy -- jaki zastosowac przekrój pionu ciep³a ( 6x6 cali--8x8 cali)16x16---20x20 cm??
Donkey thank you for your reply,,,
I have a question: - Can lead the channel under the floor and it also strongly fan-cooled as shown in section, D,, - Do not interfere with operation of the furnace and provide adequate chimney draft
-- How to use the vertical cross section of heat (6x6 inches - 8x8 inches) 16x16 --- 20x20 cm?
with me in a moment the north,,23-15,, time to sleep
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Post by Donkey on Feb 21, 2012 12:17:36 GMT -8
pluton5 I do not use blowers or other moving parts in my stoves. In my opinion, moving parts require unnecessary energy inputs, regular maintenance and invite breakdown at inopportune moments. I do think that your plan will work. The blowers will remove heat very quickly so your horizontal pipe will need to be shorter than it would be in a passive system. At the end, the exhaust needs enough heat left over to drive the chimney. I recommend that you find a safe place to build a test stove and experiment with your design. I'm not sure what you are asking. Likely a bad translation. Can you say this in a different way? pluton5Nie używam dmuchawy lub innymi częściami ruchomymi w moich pieców. Moim zdaniem, ruchomych części wymagało zbędnych nakładów energetycznych, regularna konserwacja i zaprosić podział w nieodpowiednich momentach. Myślę, że twój plan będzie działać. Dmuchawy usunie ciepło bardzo szybko dzięki czemu poziome rury trzeba będzie krótszy niż byłoby to w pasywny system. Na koniec wylotowy musi wystarczającą ilość ciepła, które zostały po jechać komin. I zaleca, aby znaleźć bezpieczne miejsce, aby zbudować piec testowy i eksperymentować z projektu. Nie jestem pewien, o co prosicie. Prawdopodobnie złe tłumaczenie. Czy możesz powiedzieć to w inny sposób?
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Post by pluton5 on Mar 5, 2012 13:39:18 GMT -8
I have a question of expert: =========================== - That the heat transfer solution is correct and more efficient 1) or 2) Tubular heat exchanger water
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Post by Donkey on Mar 5, 2012 16:09:50 GMT -8
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Post by pluton5 on Mar 5, 2012 23:11:09 GMT -8
,Donkey Thanks for your response ... I drew a little bad because it exchanger flue are 41 units with an internal diameter 40mm and exhaust gases are passed through the exchanger, not just flow with it.
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Post by pluton5 on Aug 15, 2012 13:34:20 GMT -8
hello all,, recently I was able to run the stove for heating water the RS, which perfectly great job. The tank-stainless steel boiler placed in a brick enclosure, and placed directly underneath a small stove RS. After the first tests, I was surprised by his performance, and water temperature, which is maintained up to 30 hours! after heating furnace for about 2-3 hours. The water and bricks heat up very well and as far as receiving the water takes the reheating of the water jacket. The flue duct-mounted damper bolt and after smoking, I close it, which prevents the escape of heat by means of a buffer. Fuel, of course, dry wood. Water is sufficient for a large family washing and bathing. I am very pleased with this simple improvement, but it's also thanks to you because I read all the threads and gather ideas.
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