Bell Theory

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Posted by peterberg on Today at 9:40am

Laminar flow and turbulence (albeit at low energy) at the same time?
Very interesting, but you've lost me now...

Yes, why not ?

You, like most people get easily distract by details and thus become unable to see the whole picture.
In German "Kann den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht sehen"
(Can not see the forest for the trees).

The turbulences in the boundary layers created by the balls are reducing the interaction with the main stream.
In effect ball and turbulences are forming a streamlined (imaginary) entity.
The main steam becomes a lot less turbulent or in other words more laminar
and thus consume less energy.

[Donkey]

Dec 9, 2011 8:08:54 GMT -8 @karl said:

[ You, like most people get easily distract by details and thus become unable to see the whole picture.
In German "Kann den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht sehen"
(Can not see the forest for the trees).

Perhaps you can find a kinder, gentler way to say this??
It's best to maintain respectful tones here. Sometimes statements like yours above can be taken the wrong way. I'd hate to see an otherwise informative discussion descend into a flame-war..

The turbulences in the boundary layers created by the balls are reducing the interaction with the main stream.
In effect ball and turbulences are forming a streamlined (imaginary) entity.
The main steam becomes a lot less turbulent or in other words more laminar
and thus consume less energy.

So, the picture that I'm getting is (correct me if I'm wrong), the boundary layers themselves have internal turbulence(s) and that these (turbulence(s)) are helping to keep the boundary layers stable and separate from the main flow.
Can you describe these interactions more clearly? Reiterate, clarify and add detail?
Thanks.

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Posted by Donkey on Today at 1:40pm

Today at 11:08am, karl wrote:
[ You, like most people get easily distract by details and thus become unable to see the whole picture.
In German "Kann den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht sehen"
(Can not see the forest for the trees).

Perhaps you can find a kinder, gentler way to say this??

I have simply stated a fact with evolutionary roots, which affects virtually everybody.
Could be discussed in Off Topic if wished.

Posted by Donkey on Today at 1:40pm

The turbulences in the boundary layers created by the balls are reducing the interaction with the main stream.
In effect ball and turbulences are forming a streamlined (imaginary) entity.
The main steam becomes a lot less turbulent or in other words more laminar
and thus consume less energy.

So, the picture that I'm getting is (correct me if I'm wrong), the boundary layers themselves have internal turbulence(s) and that these (turbulence(s)) are helping to keep the boundary layers stable and separate from the main flow.

Yes.

Posted by Donkey on Today at 1:40pm
Can you describe these interactions more clearly? Reiterate, clarify and add detail?
Thanks.

The site Peter has linked explains it pretty well in pictures and words.
Just try not to give to much focus to the details, add them to a whole picture,
which is not easy. Then have another look.
The exact way how the small forces between atoms and molecules are working
(Like adhesion: Van-der-Waals forces, Keesom interaction, Debye interaction)
is today not completely understood by science, but turbulences are weakening them
as well as other working forces.