ATTEMPT:Batchrocket team build! (bell w/ dead end benches)
Dec 6, 2017 6:31:45 GMT -8
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Post by burnclean on Dec 6, 2017 6:31:45 GMT -8
Dear folks,
Hi my names Alex, I am a total newbie here to the forums, I'll try to make this brief. I have been studying rocket stoves over the last few years, mostly Ianto style RMHs, and I had mocked the J-tube style up on my own previously when I lived in Colorado, USA. Over the last several months, my wife and I started a farm in Chapel Hill, NC, USA. Here, we have an un-finished "barn house" which is approx. 2000 sq ft. Therein an open face fire place was built, the classic aesthetic based type, the kind that loses most of the heat out the roof in a messy fashion... Its time for a fireplace conversion to a batch bell RMH!
I was certain I needed to convert this 25-30' chimney/ 4' wide fire place into a batch rocket heater ASAP., So, I reached out to Peter van den Berg and also posted here asking for help on this forum seeking immediate heat! (but clean heat!) and I have been generously assisted ! Thank you ! Our main endeavor was instant heat here, Peter had given me a simple design for instant heat batch rocket, and in the same timeframe this awesome local team has spontaneously assembled to attempt to build a bell with dead end benches ! We still plan to do some other builds too on our farm. I hope to share those as well.
I am quite inexperienced with this craft so as you might have noticed I posted asking for help in a couple sections on donkey32 proboards. A very kind gentleman named Brian, who is starting "Penn Rocket Heaters" company in New England USA, came to my aid and agreed to come down to NC to help us build, also 2 kind men from Asheville, NC, including Joseph and his masonry skilled friend Caleb agreed to come out to help. I hope they will add to this thread if they choose I planned the build with Brian initially who committed to designing and building the core, and also sourcing the best materials to do the job! Thanks Brian! Joseph is experienced in building masonry heaters and with his friend lending a hand it seems like we have a team !
This is an 8" bell style batch rocket heater, modeled after Peter van den Berg's "Bell with dead-end benches" which can be found on his website Batchrocket.eu. I wanted to share our resources up front to make it easier for others to find the specific build and style and to give creds of course ! This was modeled after the 2015 build of this type.
Reference Links:
(you may try to copy and paste the links if it seems they wont go)
Bell with dead-end benches:
batchrocket.eu/en/applications#culdesac
Here’s more on the 2015 build including photos:
mha-net.org/docs/v8n2/wildac15f.htm
and also a sketch up file here:
batchrocket.eu/images/rockets/files/MHAworkshop.skp
And before sharing the timeline of the build,
Dear Peter van dan Berg, thank you for your incredible, inspiring and generous work with batch rocket heaters! We are indebted and will do our best to honor your methods as we try to craft this bell !
I am also hoping for helpful feedback especially for those who are on the forums as we build this heater. Thank you folks!
THE BUILD:
I have poor internet connection so if someone could post the pictures into the actual forum on my behalf that would be helpful!
12/1/2017
I have been wanting to get this thread going so we can benefit from your expert insights out there! and hopefully so others might benefit around the world in some way from this build.
A note on this fireplace up front: unfortunately the fireplace cannot be used as "mass" so much in this build because its situation on an exterior wall of the building. Therefore as you will see in the build we chose to leave a gap between the fireplace and the main bell, in which we will eventually insulate. Soon I will attach the specific measurements of this fireplace and hearth for those of you who can utilize or check over our measurements. I can tell you its 4' wide and its 25-30' tall. I will post the specifics soon and update this post.
Before the team arrived on 12/1/2017 I had a large load of bricks delivered right into the barn. Luckily we had "barn doors" so the pallets went right inside.
(The funny part of the story is that the fork driver broke down on the farm delivering this load. I don't think they really knew how dense the firebricks were
We chose dense firebrick that is approx 4" x 9", and a solid "paver" red brick that measures 4" x 8". Our local store delivered it no problem.
After that, I began assembling bricks to create a level base with the existing hearth. I used some old cinder blocks that were sitting around the farm, I chose to fill the blocks in with agricultural perlite which I purchased at my local garden shop. Here is a shot of that:
Will add these pics soon!
More soon thanks.!
Best !
Alex (burnclean)
Hi my names Alex, I am a total newbie here to the forums, I'll try to make this brief. I have been studying rocket stoves over the last few years, mostly Ianto style RMHs, and I had mocked the J-tube style up on my own previously when I lived in Colorado, USA. Over the last several months, my wife and I started a farm in Chapel Hill, NC, USA. Here, we have an un-finished "barn house" which is approx. 2000 sq ft. Therein an open face fire place was built, the classic aesthetic based type, the kind that loses most of the heat out the roof in a messy fashion... Its time for a fireplace conversion to a batch bell RMH!
I was certain I needed to convert this 25-30' chimney/ 4' wide fire place into a batch rocket heater ASAP., So, I reached out to Peter van den Berg and also posted here asking for help on this forum seeking immediate heat! (but clean heat!) and I have been generously assisted ! Thank you ! Our main endeavor was instant heat here, Peter had given me a simple design for instant heat batch rocket, and in the same timeframe this awesome local team has spontaneously assembled to attempt to build a bell with dead end benches ! We still plan to do some other builds too on our farm. I hope to share those as well.
I am quite inexperienced with this craft so as you might have noticed I posted asking for help in a couple sections on donkey32 proboards. A very kind gentleman named Brian, who is starting "Penn Rocket Heaters" company in New England USA, came to my aid and agreed to come down to NC to help us build, also 2 kind men from Asheville, NC, including Joseph and his masonry skilled friend Caleb agreed to come out to help. I hope they will add to this thread if they choose I planned the build with Brian initially who committed to designing and building the core, and also sourcing the best materials to do the job! Thanks Brian! Joseph is experienced in building masonry heaters and with his friend lending a hand it seems like we have a team !
This is an 8" bell style batch rocket heater, modeled after Peter van den Berg's "Bell with dead-end benches" which can be found on his website Batchrocket.eu. I wanted to share our resources up front to make it easier for others to find the specific build and style and to give creds of course ! This was modeled after the 2015 build of this type.
Reference Links:
(you may try to copy and paste the links if it seems they wont go)
Bell with dead-end benches:
batchrocket.eu/en/applications#culdesac
Here’s more on the 2015 build including photos:
mha-net.org/docs/v8n2/wildac15f.htm
and also a sketch up file here:
batchrocket.eu/images/rockets/files/MHAworkshop.skp
And before sharing the timeline of the build,
Dear Peter van dan Berg, thank you for your incredible, inspiring and generous work with batch rocket heaters! We are indebted and will do our best to honor your methods as we try to craft this bell !
I am also hoping for helpful feedback especially for those who are on the forums as we build this heater. Thank you folks!
THE BUILD:
I have poor internet connection so if someone could post the pictures into the actual forum on my behalf that would be helpful!
12/1/2017
I have been wanting to get this thread going so we can benefit from your expert insights out there! and hopefully so others might benefit around the world in some way from this build.
A note on this fireplace up front: unfortunately the fireplace cannot be used as "mass" so much in this build because its situation on an exterior wall of the building. Therefore as you will see in the build we chose to leave a gap between the fireplace and the main bell, in which we will eventually insulate. Soon I will attach the specific measurements of this fireplace and hearth for those of you who can utilize or check over our measurements. I can tell you its 4' wide and its 25-30' tall. I will post the specifics soon and update this post.
Before the team arrived on 12/1/2017 I had a large load of bricks delivered right into the barn. Luckily we had "barn doors" so the pallets went right inside.
(The funny part of the story is that the fork driver broke down on the farm delivering this load. I don't think they really knew how dense the firebricks were
We chose dense firebrick that is approx 4" x 9", and a solid "paver" red brick that measures 4" x 8". Our local store delivered it no problem.
After that, I began assembling bricks to create a level base with the existing hearth. I used some old cinder blocks that were sitting around the farm, I chose to fill the blocks in with agricultural perlite which I purchased at my local garden shop. Here is a shot of that:
Will add these pics soon!
More soon thanks.!
Best !
Alex (burnclean)