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Post by Jura on Feb 17, 2018 17:17:33 GMT -8
Thank you for the infos, about the channel Jura! Was it useful to you? has it answered your questions? You saw right abouth the stove tiles, I have to disassembled two Tile Stoves. These were saled on Budapest for free just need to disassembled, 2 friends helped me. Their help was very neccesary, because one of these stove was on the 1st floor, another one on the 2nd floor, elevator nothing, so can you imagine how hard was this project. Ugh! I disassembled 3 of such stoves and had to carry it down from a 4th floor - all by myself It was also offered for free on OLX. Now ppl even pay for it as many ppl switches to gas heating and needs to have it disassembled to receive an city donation. Did you pour water into the guts of the stove before disassembling? the bricks on the bench are disassembled too my great-great-grandfater bought and used these to build an outbuilding, so these are very nice to me, I hope it will heat my flat so many years I'd like to just ask again you if you left the height of the bench so low in purpose or "just because" You used hungarian world "kertek" means "gardens", please let me know where are you from? I used this word as it is one of a few words in hungarian lng I remember During my travel in Hungary I realized that it is the only country of former post-Soviet block the idea of allotment garden had been implemented in another manner - than in all the other countries. Here in Poland on average member of the "Kertek association" has some 400m 2 area adjacent to other parcels( which one usually have a small house max 35m 2 ) which form a green islands in cities. When I travel I like to see how the idea of such gardens is implemented in different countries. And to my astonishment Budapest had no such gardens.. the idea gains momentum nowadays so they are created but in a different way..as far as I understood...
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Post by pavelcsongor on Mar 21, 2018 23:35:58 GMT -8
Hi Tadiv! Where do You live in Hungary? I also planning to remake my rocket stove into a batch box system, and if You need some help I will go
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Post by tadiv on Dec 18, 2018 10:14:45 GMT -8
Hi Csongor, I'm so sorry about the late answer. I live in Martonvásár, Fejer country.
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Post by tadiv on Dec 18, 2018 10:39:17 GMT -8
My rocket was reay on the earlier spring, first fire was only a piece carton paper ,but it worked very well the sound of the fire, the burning, the system was beautyful for me. If I find time, I'll udload pictures and videos, abuot the building and the working. Nowadays it's working every day (weather -11*C with snow), but if it the temperature is warmer out, it need to fired every second day the bench is comfortly warm, on the next day too photos.app.goo.gl/aJmF5zzDdtbRtevM9
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Post by Jura on Dec 18, 2018 11:38:52 GMT -8
Have you had a chance to measure the temp of the flue gases ?
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Post by tadiv on Dec 18, 2018 12:22:50 GMT -8
Hello Jura! No, I haven't.. I worry about it a little (condensation in chimney), I think I'll go up for the loft, and I'll put a simple thermometer into the chimney... but maybe... the cleaning door on the bench let me to put a sensor of the thermometer... yes I'll borrow an electric one from my cousin... what do you think where I have to measure and which temperature value is good or acceptable
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Post by josephcrawley on Dec 18, 2018 13:29:23 GMT -8
Very nice! I wish we could get stove tiles like that in the USA.
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Post by Jura on Dec 18, 2018 14:24:42 GMT -8
what do you think where I have to measure and which temperature value is good or acceptable I also had a clean out next to the chimney floor and exit from the rocket from only. Once you open it and it isn't air tight the rocket burning effect in the firebox is strongly suppressed/diminished. I needed to attach a sticky foil around the edges of the clean out. I was also a bit worried as the 68 C measured at the bottom of 5m high brick chimney is pretty low. So as to stay in a comparison mode you'd need take your measurement at teh height of 80 cm as users of the forum do
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Post by tadiv on Dec 19, 2018 0:14:30 GMT -8
Very nice! I wish we could get stove tiles like that in the USA. Thank you. Firstly, I want to build the bell and the bench with new little size bricks, but it was expensive, so I started to search stove tiles. I found two stoves, same tiles for free, just need to disassembled and carried it home. Jura also knows how difficult and heavy the project like that. Now, there are two tile stove too in my friend's flat in Budapest, I have to disassemble these, but unfortunately booth are on the second floor, elevator nothing...😟😟 I have no idea, what I will build from these stove tiles. At the future it's sure, I will re-edify my another tile stove to RHM.
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Post by Jura on Dec 19, 2018 1:51:45 GMT -8
Very nice! I wish we could get stove tiles like that in the USA. And here you are being paid for disassembling old coal stoves with such tiles. I did it a few times and collected the chamotte bricks and tiles. Now having so many of them I consider using them to "plaster" a exterior north wall of my allotment garden. Just not sure how they will behave in freezing temps.
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Post by tadiv on Dec 19, 2018 2:07:46 GMT -8
Very nice! I wish we could get stove tiles like that in the USA. And here you are being paid for disassembling old coal stoves with such tiles. I did it a few times and collected the chamotte bricks and tiles. Now having so many of them I consider using them to "plaster" a exterior north wall of my allotment garden. Just not sure how they will behave in freezing temps. I think If there won't be wet, protect from rain, etc. everything will be OK
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Post by Jura on Dec 19, 2018 2:55:41 GMT -8
I think If there won't be wet, protect from rain, etc. everything will be OK Thanks. It's a low 1 m wall with an almost vertical roof overhang so they will be protected from direct rain but not from rain water falling onto ground and splashing. So moisture is an issue and the wall is not even plastered so bare bricks absorb lots of it. BTW. Once you disassemble the coal stove try not to reuse the brick from around the firebox in crucial places in other contraptions. They usually were overheated thus being much more brittle. Did you use the original metal clamps for attaching the tiles? I can not see any mineral wool blanket applied for dilatation between firebox and the door wall, Am I not seeing correctly?
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Post by tadiv on Dec 19, 2018 4:53:56 GMT -8
To my stove I used New, 6cm firebricks, the metal clips are New too, made from 3mm diameter galvanized wire. Everyting cliped-on everything 😀 tile with tile, tile with bricks, bricks with bricks. You saw good, there is no any extra thing between door and firebox just good quality clay and sand mixture. Dilatation makes cracks (it know physics 😂) in the clay mortar, as between tiles, but the metal clips pull back, when the system cooling. Around the door the cracks repairs with new clay mixture at the time of the yearly maintenance, before the heating season.
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Post by Jura on Dec 19, 2018 9:31:24 GMT -8
i'd like to ask what made you to use clamps to connect the bench upper surface bricks to each other.
How about temperatures distribution of the upper surface along the bench? is it equal along all its length?
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Post by tadiv on Dec 19, 2018 10:15:25 GMT -8
i'd like to ask what made you to use clamps to connect the bench upper surface bricks to each other. How about temperatures distribution of the upper surface along the bench? is it equal along all its length? The upper bricks is only in clay mortar, no clamps. These are old style, bigger bricks (13x28cm) they can stay each other together, minimal dilatation cracks in the mortar, thanks to the first brick line's clamps. Works very good, not moving. The temperature of the upper bricks not measured, it is comfortly warm all the surface . Naturally close to the bell is warmer, but not unpleasantly, the two brick line help to distribute and store the heat
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