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Post by pianomark on Feb 12, 2016 15:41:57 GMT -8
Brian,
I did a quick FedEx estimate online, came up with $17.61 shipping for two units (one pkg.) I assumed the smallest possible box (24 x 16 x 8), 10 pounds for weight (a guess), shipped the cheapest way from Johnstown to SW Ohio where I live. So your estimate sounds about right, once you factor in your cost for travel and packaging. Recycled packaging is fine with me, if that's cheaper/easier for you. I think FedEx may offer boxes/packing services, don't know what that would cost.
I might also be interested in the insulated batch box liner, when you get more information. Of course, that's going to be way more expensive.
I'm not sure how to PM (personal message?) you. I'm going to go figure that out now.
Mark
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Post by briank on Feb 12, 2016 16:02:21 GMT -8
Brian,
I did a quick FedEx estimate online, came up with $17.61 shipping for two units (one pkg.) I assumed the smallest possible box (24 x 16 x 8), 10 pounds for weight (a guess), shipped the cheapest way from Johnstown to SW Ohio where I live. So your estimate sounds about right, once you factor in your cost for travel and packaging. Recycled packaging is fine with me, if that's cheaper/easier for you. I think FedEx may offer boxes/packing services, don't know what that would cost.
I might also be interested in the insulated batch box liner, when you get more information. Of course, that's going to be way more expensive.
I'm not sure how to PM (personal message?) you. I'm going to go figure that out now.
Mark
Thanks Mark, that sounds about right. I've shipped plenty of stuff in the past, but mostly through UPS. I figured about $15-20 shipping and another $10-15 packaging based on my prior experiences having UPS box and ship odd shaped or fragile objects. I'm really interested in seeing how the prices come in on the batch boxes estimates. I have a friend with extensive experience in CAD/CAM waiting to see if the price point is reasonable. If so we'll redesign the drawings and get a run of them into production next. |
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Post by keithturtle on Feb 13, 2016 6:34:50 GMT -8
Did you ever get a price for the burn chamber halves as well? That will probably take another week or two for a rough estimate. Then the batch box drawings will need to be modified to accept a firebrick lining on the bottom, sides and rear, and the outsides will be made into a simple rectangle shape for better stability and sturdiness and to make it easier to encase in a metal box or frame to which a door can be attached. Once the drawings are finalized we can get a final price on those, but the modifications of the drawings are probably beyond my skill level at present. Yeah, I'm not sure that there would be a lot of benefit to the vacuformed fiber structure when firebricks are already providing the heat resistance. Possibly another material that could provide structural stability at less cost (metal stamping) that could retain some perlite? IMO Turtle |
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Post by briank on Feb 13, 2016 7:39:15 GMT -8
Possibly another material that could provide structural stability at less cost (metal stamping) that could retain some perlite? IMO Turtle Actually, the advantage of the vacuum formed ceramic fiber in the batch box is that it is both highly insulated as well as very light, which means it heats up fast and keeps the heat inside the burn chamber and riser for a hotter, cleaner burn. We don't need heat resistance here, just abrasion resistance and insulation. The firebrick splits are only there to protect the vacuum formed ceramic fiber shape, which is not hard enough to resist damage from the firewood loads. |
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Post by briank on Mar 13, 2016 14:53:27 GMT -8
Hi folks,
A quick update. The salesman got back to me yesterday by phone. This is one of those bad news/good news(?) updates. He said they were unable to create the male and female ends using the 6" ID and 8" ED risers and offered the original flat ended risers at the original price of $36 each.
Frankly, I learned that when they offered the male and female ends they usually would have charged an extra $1000 for the tooling and extra forms to add the ship lap to the risers and they forgot to add that to the $46 price, so they might have been trying to cut their losses.
Regardless, the risers will now be 6" ID and 8" ED and 24" long with flat ends at $36 each.
If that causes anyone difficulty I will gladly reimburse those who payed up front for the male and female ends.
My apologies but this is beyond my control and I'm not very happy about it. Please let me know if that is a problem for anyone who paid up front. If it's not, I'll simply use the $10 difference towards packing and shipping for those who paid up front.
- Brian
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Post by pianomark on Mar 13, 2016 17:42:46 GMT -8
Brian,
I don't think it will be a problem for me. I was planning to have some kind of external support anyway, and that will hold the flat ends in alignment.
Mark
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Post by keithturtle on Mar 13, 2016 21:15:07 GMT -8
Please let me know if that is a problem for anyone who paid up front. Flat ends cause me no grief Turtle |
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Post by exwatermark on Mar 21, 2016 14:12:46 GMT -8
Hi folks, A quick update. The salesman got back to me yesterday by phone. This is one of those bad news/good news(?) updates. He said they were unable to create the male and female ends using the 6" ID and 8" ED risers and offered the original flat ended risers at the original price of $36 each. Frankly, I learned that when they offered the male and female ends they usually would have charged an extra $1000 for the tooling and extra forms to add the ship lap to the risers and they forgot to add that to the $46 price, so they might have been trying to cut their losses. Regardless, the risers will now be 6" ID and 8" ED and 24" long with flat ends at $36 each. If that causes anyone difficulty I will gladly reimburse those who payed up front for the male and female ends. My apologies but this is beyond my control and I'm not very happy about it. Please let me know if that is a problem for anyone who paid up front. If it's not, I'll simply use the $10 difference towards packing and shipping for those who paid up front. - Brian Hi folks, I'm very much a new boy here, this being my first post on any forum - ever, but here goes, by way of introduction I'm based in the east midlands area of the UK and am lucky enough to own a small piece of woodland which is a mile from my home. We've been building a roundhouse based on iron age construction principles for the last six years, it's a roundwood henge with reciprocal frame roof with strawbale and cob walls, cob floor and a turf roof. I'm now at the stage where I want to heat it and, after many many hours of online research I've opted for a 6" RMH based on Ernie and Erica's free download (many thanks to the pair of them), I've got a copy of Ianto's 3rd edition book too.......... but I'm very interested in casting my own burn chamber and riser after watching Matt Walkers videos on the subject. And so to my point in this discussion, given the apparent need to have male/female ends on the cast ceramic risers and the fact that risers perform better with a bevelled outward slope on the top, why not cast the m/f ends to incorporate that bevel thus eliminating the need for any change in diameter of the casting? I would be very interested in purchasing a couple of these risers too - anyone know roughly how much they would cost to ship over to me? Many thanks, Mark |
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Post by briank on Apr 1, 2016 15:07:30 GMT -8
Sorry guys, but I had a pretty severe stroke. I'm recovering well in a rehab hospital. My son will still pick up the risers and ship them out as planned, but I haven't heard back from the manufacturer yet.
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Post by paramick on Apr 2, 2016 8:45:28 GMT -8
Get well soon.:-)
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Post by keithturtle on Apr 23, 2016 20:30:30 GMT -8
Sorry guys, but I had a pretty severe stroke. Just checked this thread. Bummer, too much stress? Chill out for a while, a month at the beach after rehab, etc. Praying for your recovery and looking forward to the parts Turtle |
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Post by briank on Apr 24, 2016 12:49:11 GMT -8
Thanks!
Oddly enough they still haven't got back to me yet...
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Post by briank on May 2, 2016 8:00:14 GMT -8
Hi folks,
I finally heard from the manufacturer late last week after I emailed them to check the status. They're in. I'm going to pick them up this week and ship them. Apologies for the delay.
Brian
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Post by keithturtle on May 3, 2016 18:23:03 GMT -8
I'm going to pick them up this week and ship them. Glad to hear the rehab folks did a good job. Please advise of shipping $ Turtle |
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Post by briank on May 7, 2016 14:24:45 GMT -8
Hi folks, I was able to pick up the risers in Pittsburgh last night. They are heavier than I expected, sturdy. I'll get them shipped this week.  webpage |
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