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Post by walterceccotti on Oct 24, 2016 3:55:05 GMT -8
The main idea is to separate the wood batch from the air inlet. In the Ianto Evans standard model they are united in one same concept. This for me was too rudimental, I mean, even if the draft is perfect, there is always the possibility of some smoke coming in the room if the wood crackles... so I made a horizontal airlet and keeped the gravity-operated original concept of the Ianto Evans. A horizontal wood-combustion chamber means to modify the combustion chamber and a faster, less clean burn process. With this trick i made, i can let the stove alone for a couple of hours and forget about it. |
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Post by satamax on Oct 24, 2016 5:13:49 GMT -8
OK, it's a magazine L tube. Clever idea, but not a batch. Check f styles posts at permies, for something similar.
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Post by walterceccotti on Oct 24, 2016 6:10:35 GMT -8
Yes, it s just a magazine, not intended to use it for cooking. Even in that case, there are better solutions if u want to cook. Otherwise, I don t get the utility of the whole concept(more splitting, faster burning?). This seemed the more close to vertical batch box concept thread to post. Sry if not  |
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Post by satamax on Jan 16, 2017 2:21:55 GMT -8
Hi everybody. Well, still theoricizing (duh!) permies.com/t/38889/a/46616/batchetage.skp?download_attachment=trueI'm wondering if an expansion chamber between firebox and hear riser could serve a purpose. One port in the firebox, larger chamber, another port entering the heat riser. It would help me to set the riser further away. So it's not stuck against the oven's wall. Or do like the previous drawing, a flame developper. having only one port at the heat riser. The drawing is prety much where i want to head with my flat's stove. Any opinions guys? |
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Post by peterberg on Jan 16, 2017 3:51:55 GMT -8
As I see it, it looks like the port is below half of the firebox' height. In such a construction you need to feed the air from the top in order to prevent the whole of the load catching fire. Without as much as a simple secundary air you have to avoid at all times the fuel leaning to the side of the port.
I also see that you have drawn a long riser which is good in this respect. The whole of the construction looks like something SjangvanDaal did 4 years ago, minus the restricted port, until he switched to batch rocket technology. His construction couldn't be gauged into being reliable, that's why he dropped it. Maybe you would do best to test it in the yard before building it inside the house?
Also, in my view the cooking plate won't reach cooking plate temperatures, the oven is.
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Post by satamax on Jan 16, 2017 6:38:08 GMT -8
Hi Peter, thanks alot for the reply.
Well, i didn't take time to draw the P channel, but it will be added for sure. The cooking plate might change place, to be in the first bell. Shortening the oven in order to do this.
I'll modify the drawing soon.
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Post by peterberg on Jan 16, 2017 7:03:55 GMT -8
Forgot: think of something to cool the walls of the firebox, especially the upper part. Maybe even a steel top half double wall with water in it. Something along the same lines as the Hill furnace. This will prevent the fuel to be superheated and catching fire prematurely. When done properly, you could produce some warm water for doing the dishes! |
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Post by matthewwalker on Jan 16, 2017 17:13:02 GMT -8
Huh, did Peter just invent the feed tube water jacket water heater? Holy cow.
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Post by satamax on Jan 17, 2017 1:43:15 GMT -8
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Post by peterberg on Jan 17, 2017 2:11:02 GMT -8
Huh, did Peter just invent the feed tube water jacket water heater? Holy cow. No I didn't, Richard Hill did, about 40 years ago. Most of the time I am building on other people's ideas anyway.  |
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Post by satamax on Jan 17, 2017 3:30:13 GMT -8
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Post by matthewwalker on Jan 17, 2017 7:07:10 GMT -8
Sure wish there were pics, of any of this.
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Post by satamax on Jan 17, 2017 7:15:43 GMT -8
I'll try to post some views tomorow.
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Post by drooster on Jan 17, 2017 16:20:18 GMT -8
OK, it's a magazine L tube. Clever idea, but not a batch. Check f styles posts at permies, for something similar. I think copying Styles' mag-rocket would be better, carefully following his riser construction, airtight magazine, and low level air path. |
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Post by satamax on Jan 18, 2017 1:10:32 GMT -8
I'd say i'm not too interested in Fstyles build. It doesn't tickle my fancy. I would like to see a few testo tests done to it.
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