|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 18, 2014 11:11:44 GMT -8
satamax sorry I can not understand, could you send me a PM in Italian? thanks
I saw the project you are referring to, and it's definitely better with regard to the construction, but it has a black oven and the heat exchanger it can not be inserted directly into the flow hotter
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 18, 2014 7:23:46 GMT -8
wow... nice implementation of a design. fingers crossed. waiting to see it coming to real world:) thanks for reply I hope to do something good .. :-)
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 18, 2014 7:11:19 GMT -8
satamax you mean too many narrow passages? (with English I make a terrible effort) keep in mind that this stove has many tasks: plate for cooking, heating water, black oven and mass heater, and to maintain these characteristics all steps are required I've got to give up something, in this case the convenience in loading the stove and the height of the plate for cooking. but the batch box is 55 cm long and can use wood from 50 means so much heat .. where the steps are narrow (but larger than to a conduit 6 ") and twisted the heat is still high, when the gases cool the volume is wider. The bypass for pre heat the fireplace will do the rest (I hope) I have an idea in my head, trying to create more flat surface can be positioned in front of the room to be heated
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 17, 2014 11:17:11 GMT -8
ciao satamax you're right, but I do not know if they are able to design a j tube that functions equally well as a batch box of Peter. I have had some experience with the J tube and a bit of smoke that comes back is frequent (of course with my knowledge). I think, however, that a large system needs a rather high riser. As you can see the operation of a oven black in the home?
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 17, 2014 9:03:14 GMT -8
Hi I thought of a solution for the bypass .. I do not know if it can work, is placed at a height where the gas temperature in the chimney can send before heating the entire stove, a device will close the damper once reached the predetermined T chimney. The oven is quite large, and the cooking surface is really high, but I could not do otherwise. I would appreciate some comments. I'll try to calculate the ISA of this stove. cucina.skp (204.79 KB)
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 16, 2014 12:06:48 GMT -8
this is what I have in mind .. cucina.skp (197.19 KB) I still work on some things, I would take a bypass to heat faster chimney the heat exchanger is located under the plate. I adopted batch box with 6 "but with a length of 55 cm of the hearth. Comments and suggestions? thanks
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 14, 2014 11:31:23 GMT -8
The riser is very short , however, is remarkable building hex . My idea is to try to build a riser with the correct length , try to do it with hexagonal plates Vermiculite (...) black instead of the oven , place the heat exchanger . instead of building a bench, make a bell with white oven . I would like to implement a bypass heat exchanger initially then once triggered the chimney ,begin to heat up the oven and bell .
i am preparing the sketch... thanks
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 14, 2014 7:22:14 GMT -8
thanks Peterberg, if I may ask, how long is the riser of the kitchen of the video I posted?
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 13, 2014 13:21:58 GMT -8
I'm not sure, was this model drawn before these formulas were worked out? My 6"/150mm batch box rocket has a 65cm riser and works great. From my experience a taller riser is better than a shorter riser. Im sorry i don't know. I agree with the size of the riser. It would be useful to have a skech of a recently cast
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 13, 2014 11:19:18 GMT -8
exact .. So also in the cast type the riser must be 65cm? in "compare. skp" there is a comparison between a brick and the cast. In the cast system the riser is only 45cm high the file was taken on the forum and it is this: BatchBox.skp (263.31 KB) What is the reason for this difference? thanks
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 13, 2014 9:20:25 GMT -8
ok but using these calculations:
link
with a CSA of 177 square cm, the height of the riser should be at least 60 cm?
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 12, 2014 13:20:42 GMT -8
I think that is much to this project, I would like to also use a heat exchanger under the cooking plate . use brick 220x110x60 mm thanks for reply
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 12, 2014 12:04:51 GMT -8
here in comparison:
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 12, 2014 11:45:25 GMT -8
hi Peterberg thanks for reply. the batch box "rocket stove 177" has different measurements compared to the system 6" built of bricks to understand this: horizontal2.skp (55.89 KB) you is?
|
|
|
Post by independentenergy on Jan 12, 2014 7:59:52 GMT -8
Hi I would like to implement a system similar to this video:
I have a question, I would use a batch box 6 "but the riser 57cm hob too high, you can lower it a bit in some way?
more in this video:
using a "177 Rocket" this box is equal to a 6 "brick?
thanks .
|
|