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Post by talltuk on Apr 15, 2014 13:06:54 GMT -8
Hi folks quick question, a bell going from floor level ground floor to celing height second floor to fit in partiton wall between two bedrooms. Could this work with single massive bell or better to construct as two bells one on top of the other. Thinking 250mm batchbox to run but only theoretical at this point
any thoughts
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Post by ericvw on Aug 13, 2014 18:44:05 GMT -8
Hi there Talltuk, I'm curious why your question has gone unanswered... Have you come to some resolution about the premise you inquired about? As I prepare to build my batch box in the basement, I've considered your question, pondering either tall single bell, projecting thru the floor of our single story home, or a second bell atop the first(containing batch box), sort of like the one peterberg sketched up and built. Sure would like for both of us to get some input.... Hope something comes of it, Eric VW
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Post by satamax on Aug 13, 2014 20:45:59 GMT -8
Two bells i would say.
You need to keep some heat at ground floor.
Or you could simply rely on convection. With a normal barrel followed by a bell downstairs. The quick heat from the barrel would raise to the second floor.
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Post by peterberg on Aug 14, 2014 0:11:44 GMT -8
Hi folks quick question, a bell going from floor level ground floor to celing height second floor to fit in partiton wall between two bedrooms. Could this work with single massive bell or better to construct as two bells one on top of the other. Thinking 250mm batchbox to run but only theoretical at this point. You are planning to bring in the big guns! Please, think it over carefully, the biggest batch box I have heard about happened to be a 200 mm system. And that one was already behaving like a very big canon. But about your question: Using a single bell, that would mean the top of it will get the hottest. Doesn't sound advisable for a bedroom I would think. So you have to build it as a double bell, not necessarily but possibly on top of each other. The point is, the firebox itself should be in the downstairs bell, the top of that one being the hottest again. Then a channel from the bottom of the first bell to the second floor, inserting low in the second bell. This construction is a large one, It would be wise to have a bypass of some sort in order to warm the chimney stack first. That bypass could be somewhere in the first bell at halfway height.
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Post by Daryl on Aug 14, 2014 4:13:10 GMT -8
Serious question, Why doesn't someone build channels to the second floor like masonry heaters? The channels from the first floor are taken to the second floor and routed through "mini benches". If this isn't possible (weight issues, maybe?), then I would like to know the reason. Thank you. Through a quick online search, this looks like one:
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Post by talltuk on Aug 16, 2014 11:52:42 GMT -8
Hi folks
One atop the other would be the way to go. Daryl, weight is the issue, being wooden floirs upstairs, but maybe spreading it out. Peter thebig gun was only an idea to alliw higher isa, as with a 150 or 200mm tge single bell would end up very tall and thin. I had a nightmare trying to work out the dimensions. Much easier to do two. However it may all be academic asbthis is for our house build in many years time and I am still trying to convince the wife to let me build a plant room
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